Curse

Xyon the Greatest · Jun 04, 2009, 10:20 PM // 22:20

I love how the majority of people put no to all of them, even though they know deep inside atleast a few of them were to be yes.

Zodiac Meteor · Jun 04, 2009, 10:22 PM // 22:22

God dammit, when are they going to get his degree in annoying revoked?

Regina Buenaobra · Jun 04, 2009, 10:59 PM // 22:59

You can substitute "games" for almost anything in Dr. Phil's questionnaire. Alcohol, drugs, gambling, playing the stock market, etc. Games don't cause addiction by themselves. People have problems and look to something else to fill a void in their lives. I don't like the sensationalism of some of these people. It's like the moral panic people had about movies, television, comic books, and D&D that happened when those things were still new. :\

gremlin · Jun 04, 2009, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Everyone is obsessed with something and presumably Dr Phil has an unhealthy obsession with his Ego.

edit
forgot to answer the questions too busy gaming

1. No I play purely as recreation

2. No I am retired and always remember to eat sleep meet friends etc the other fun things in life

3. No and I don't think obsessively about gaming

4. No

5. No

6. No

7. No

8. No

9. No

10. No

Black Metal · Jun 04, 2009, 11:41 PM // 23:41

All are a hell no except for #4. I've gotten restless away from gaming when there's something I feel that I'm missing out on, occasionally.

This would either be when there's a major in-game event or a smaller one which I may particularly be able to take advantage of or use to my profit, or a new game that I'm dying to play some more.

I think it's fair to feel that way, and not be labelled a gaming addict.

edit: now when it comes to alcoholism, there would be several more yes answers. I love wine and beer.

DreamWind · Jun 05, 2009, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

You can substitute "games" for almost anything in Dr. Phil's questionnaire. Alcohol, drugs, gambling, playing the stock market, etc. Games don't cause addiction by themselves. People have problems and look to something else to fill a void in their lives. I don't like the sensationalism of some of these people. It's like the moral panic people had about movies, television, comic books, and D&D that happened when those things were still new. :\

Spoken like a true game representative.

Engage · Jun 05, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Problem? What problem? I don't have a problem! Anyways.......back to gaming.

wu is me · Jun 05, 2009, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

Spoken like a true game representative.

Not really... Just substitute the word "game" for anything anyone does in life, and it's really the same thing.
Gaming is seen as a 'Problem' because currently its not a widely recognised productive activity. If it were considered a sport, then people spending a lot of time gaming would be better described as "Training" rather than wasting their time.

Zahr Dalsk · Jun 05, 2009, 02:16 AM // 02:16

"And while we're at it, f*ck Doctor Phil too." - George Carlin.

pumpkin pie · Jun 05, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I am not admitting to anything!!!!!! you can't make me!

Waves @ Ms Regina B Off-Topic & the Absurd can be addictive!

Red Sonya · Jun 05, 2009, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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forum trolling.

You think some people are addicted to forum trolling?

Oh and btw to all that think this thread is bogus. Denial is one of the first signs someone is addicted. You have to want to be helped before you can be helped. I've seen it all my life with people addicted to alcohol and drugs. I love the denial attitudes in these people. Laughing at it is also another one of the signs. You think you don't need help when you are the one who needs the most help. You will attack anyone who says anything against you or about your problems and make fun of it.

Sword Hammer Axe · Jun 05, 2009, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

You can substitute "games" for almost anything in Dr. Phil's questionnaire. Alcohol, drugs, gambling, playing the stock market, etc. Games don't cause addiction by themselves. People have problems and look to something else to fill a void in their lives. I don't like the sensationalism of some of these people. It's like the moral panic people had about movies, television, comic books, and D&D that happened when those things were still new. :\

Damn straight! This is exactly what it's about!
Honestly blaming the games really doesn't help the people who are addicted to gaming. Finding out why they are and helping them with that problem makes a lot more sense.

Etta · Jun 05, 2009, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Dr Phils is an idiot.

One should not criticize what one can't understand.

zwei2stein · Jun 05, 2009, 10:46 AM // 10:46

So much denial, so much dismissal, so many people proving they are a-ok. Quite sad.

Read this:

http://www.nickyee.com/hub/addiction/home.html

Etta · Jun 05, 2009, 11:08 AM // 11:08

And your point is, what?

Painbringer · Jun 05, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03

I watched the show when it was on TV. They had 3 guests one that wanted help because he was not working and gaming for hours on end. One rehabbed player that when playing was up to 88 hours a week was thousands of dollars in the hole. He paid subscriptions / secretly rebuilt his computer with new components hidden in his old computer case over an over / and hid his game play as much as possible. And last was the mother of a child that committed suicide. This was a person that kind of pulled away from society and degraded quit his job holed up in his apartment etc… Of course they would show the extreme spectrum of any addiction on his show he is selling books and TV ad space and anything else he can slap his name on.

Personal Opinion – Gaming is a hobby. Like any hobby people love to do. It would not be a hobby if you didn’t. This brews a passion in an individual and an addiction for it. Game companies produce products that are portals for us. That is the limit of there responsibility IMO until someone proves otherwise. I really don’t think they are Halloween III brainwashing us. The real responsibility lies on the individual using the portal to know when enough is enough. To take a break to live and enjoy what you have remember you have more than others.

Tips from me to you if you need it

1. Get some exercise- walk, bike, run , run in place, lift weights, stretch whatever you can do to get moving 5 days a week 20 min a day (not a Dr. here but get off your Arse and get some sun)
2. Talk to people face to face- verbal skills are much more important then any other communication you can learn. (try to talk to someone new once a week)
3. Set a limit to your playing in advance (get a clock or reduce the screen to show the taskbar clock) play your time and when it’s over finish up and log off. There is a reason you see the message “You have been playing 3 hours please take a break”.
4. Set goals like I am going to finish homework / lawn work / project / wash the car etc… and reward with a little playing time afterwards.
5. Enjoy friends and family now some may not be with you for long (People move, people change, and people leave us)
6. Remember only you can make change. You have to will it to happen.

Ghost Omel · Jun 05, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Lest see what kind of answer id get from this interragation

1. Do you feel that you need to play online games as a way of dealing with anxiety or depression in your general life?

Negatory

2. Are you preoccupied with gaming so much that you are distracted from the priorities in your life, such as relationships, school or jobs?

Niet

3. Have you lied to your friends or family to conceal your obsessive thinking about gaming?

No

4. Do you get restless and irritable when you are away from gaming or feel that you are restricted from your next gaming event?

Niht

5. Have you attempted to stop or cut back your gaming behavior, but failed because of the anxiety, depression or general stress you experience?

Nope

6. Do you feel you need to play online games because it gives you the self-esteem and confidence other activities don’t?

Haha Sure right...NO

7. Have you lost or damaged a relationship, such as affectionate, sexual or parental connection because of your obsession, lying or distorting your behavior of gaming?

Gaming sometimes creates them..so NO

8. Have you diminished your goals, such as grades, sports, money, etc. because of your obsession with gaming?

No Gaming is has nothing to with this..Lazines does

9. Have you lost or damaged job opportunities because of your obsessive gaming behavior?

No

10. Have you lost or damaged family and community relationships because of your gaming behavior?

No

Straight forward questions.. which is fine.. But i think that even hard core gamers and addicts would have answered no to 50 % of them... so yeah this things is rather.....bleh in my opinion

Miss Puddles · Jun 05, 2009, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Verene

However, I do have to disagree with the "if you answered yes or sometimes just once you could be an addict" bit. Especially with the first question. Better to de-stress by playing a game than by actually harming something or someone, in my opinion.

True, but I think it was getting at the keyword of NEED. If you NEED something instead of just wanting it, there may be a bigger issue. But as mentioned, you could throw in just about any term instead of "gaming". Not like this is an indepth psychological analysis, just something to get you thinking.

1. Do you feel that you need to play online games as a way of dealing with anxiety or depression in your general life?
No, but sometimes I would rather kill pixels than end up snapping at someone.

2. Are you preoccupied with gaming so much that you are distracted from the priorities in your life, such as relationships, school or jobs?
I lost track of time and missed a class once. I don't think that counts.

3. Have you lied to your friends or family to conceal your obsessive thinking about gaming?
No

4. Do you get restless and irritable when you are away from gaming or feel that you are restricted from your next gaming event?
Only if I forget to afk during a boardwalk weekend!

5. Have you attempted to stop or cut back your gaming behavior, but failed because of the anxiety, depression or general stress you experience?
No

6. Do you feel you need to play online games because it gives you the self-esteem and confidence other activities don’t?
No

7. Have you lost or damaged a relationship, such as affectionate, sexual or parental connection because of your obsession, lying or distorting your behavior of gaming?
My ex accuses me to this day of cheating on him with someone I met in GW, which never happened XD. That would be a no.

8. Have you diminished your goals, such as grades, sports, money, etc. because of your obsession with gaming?
No

9. Have you lost or damaged job opportunities because of your obsessive gaming behavior?
No

10. Have you lost or damaged family and community relationships because of your gaming behavior?
People sometimes get annoyed if I take a few minutes to finish up a mission or something before leaving to go somewhere, but otherwise no.

Buster · Jun 07, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I think Dr Phil plays WOW because how else would he know about game addiction ?

Bryant Again · Jun 07, 2009, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

You can substitute "games" for almost anything in Dr. Phil's questionnaire. Alcohol, drugs, gambling, playing the stock market, etc. Games don't cause addiction by themselves. People have problems and look to something else to fill a void in their lives. I don't like the sensationalism of some of these people. It's like the moral panic people had about movies, television, comic books, and D&D that happened when those things were still new. :\

Regina Buenaobra:

Winning the internets, one post at a time.

Honestly, though, I have a lot of spare time these days and video games are my favorite thing to fill that void. If I don't have video games, it's Adult Swim DVDs. If it's neither of those it's smoking and watching old horror movies.

In general, when I was younger, video games were preventing me from doing HW and studying. But when mum took them away I didn't see much improvement. My problem was less with video games and more lacking a motivation to do good in school.

YMMV. Enjoy responsibly.